Two Trips and a Drag
Two equine professionals with a humorous take on current affairs and other random topics from their perspective of a lifetime in the horse industry. Guests from across disciplines join us to discuss the highs and lows of equine sport.
Epic Tails of Ribbons Horses and Epic Fails
Just like our song says ... Trena Kerr and Sam McCarthy have over 100 years combined knowledge, as both trainers and competitors ...from local shows to National finals, from buying horses out of fields to shipping horses internationally. Throw in a little fox hunting, some 3 day eventing and mix in a little young horse and sport horse breeding.
We are professional trainers that have competed at all the venues, shown good horses and not so good horses, and have had a lot of fun along the way. Our guests are industry professionals from all parts of the horse world, we invite you to listen, laugh, and join us for our weekly struggles and victories.
Episodes

20 hours ago
20 hours ago
34 min
Hosts Trena and Sam cover a mix of light and serious topics: product reviews (a failed Honey Love bra and a beloved shower foot scrubber), TV recs, and reactions to reality-show filming at barns.
They discuss current horse-world concerns — wildfire smoke canceling shows and health risks, people posting negative test-ride videos (sparking talk of NDAs), and the corporatization of pre-purchase vet checks.
The episode ends on hopeful notes: a proposal to reduce stall costs for long stays, Tryon hosting a secret five-star selection trial for the U.S. eventing team, and the podcast’s growing international audience.

Jul 7, 2026
Jul 7, 2026
39 min
Hosts catch up after a busy weekend—talking July 4th fireworks, dogs and horses reacting to noise, a private Lake display, and attending WEC and a VIP reception where friends won big. They share personal stories about farm life, travel, and social highlights from the summer.
They also dive into practical horse-care topics: managing heat at shows (ice, fans, cold-hosing), EAP lessons, strict biosecurity and bucket hygiene, and tricks for quick cooling. The episode closes with thoughts on the new premier jumping league, the Faultless series, marketability of the sport, and a generational poll idea about reality shows in barns.

Jun 23, 2026
Jun 23, 2026
49 min
In Episode 42 Trena and Sam catch up on summer horse‑show life — from dreaming up an "adult horse camp" to surviving scorching shows, steward and EMT responsibilities, and clever turnout ideas like the track system.
They also discuss Bold Minstrel's Hall of Fame induction, recent New York City carriage incidents and their consequences for the horses, plus listener shout‑outs and barn anecdotes.

Jun 7, 2026
Jun 7, 2026
44 min
On this episode the hosts recap the Upperville thoroughbred $25,000 class and celebrate the versatility and spirit of off-the-track thoroughbreds, while debating whether to keep these classes open and how best to showcase them.They also dig into current events: a troubling story about a teen accused of stabbing horses at a Nevada competition, the pros and cons of barn surveillance and security, recent horse-show technology like biometric girths, and broader concerns about USEF/USHJA governance and preserving historic venues.

May 28, 2026
May 28, 2026
37 min
Hosts celebrate the 40th episode while trading stories about a 30-year-old paint named Dollar who escapes, Devon’s rain-soaked chaos and calls to invest in heritage horse shows. They discuss social media bullying over a young rider montage, dive into horse-related idioms, touch on driving and Belmont updates, and share lighthearted barnyard banter and listener updates.

May 18, 2026
May 18, 2026
1hr 1 min
In this episode Trena and Sam sit down with Krystle Bridges of Sonny Brooke Stables after judging a horse show to talk barn life, course design, coaching tricks, and the ups and downs of showing—from training tips and junior riders to earning school credit for riding. They also digress into lighter topics: a pocket hose product review, the news of Dover Saddlery closing, wildlife on the farm, and a humorous idea for a substitute trainer service, all punctuated with personal stories and behind-the-scenes anecdotes.

May 18, 2026
May 18, 2026
37 min
A relaxed, philosophy‑driven episode about horses, featuring the Madigan squeeze for newborn foals, why some horses seem calmer under saddle, and how equines are used in therapy and healing.
Hosts discuss horse behavior and studies on heart‑rate mirroring, and end with light travel stories and banter.

May 11, 2026
May 11, 2026
49 min
On this Happy Mother’s Day edition of Two Trips and a Drag, hosts share personal milestones, from a graduate’s proud moment to a daughter hearing her mother preach, plus reflections on nurse mares and community support.The episode covers travel woes after Spirit Airlines’ collapse, fears of aluminum shortages affecting Diet Coke and trailers, and an update on a woman driving horses across the Midwest.In horse-world talk, they celebrate show wins, discuss judging education and grassroots shows, recall funny memories, and pitch quirky ideas like a Diet Coke semi, a Trainer Survivor island, and a blind judge prank.

May 1, 2026
May 1, 2026
48 min
Hosts Sam and Trena banter about cross‑country at the four‑ and five‑star events, praise standout horses like Argyle, and react to the bold, stomach‑dropping jumps that made the courses so intense.
They discuss Kentucky Derby and Oaks picks and betting, share a quick mint julep how‑to, celebrate Ferdinand’s new therapy‑farm home, and debate USEF/USHJA funding, support for grassroots shows, Hall of Fame news, and the quirks of naming and teaching in the horse world.

Apr 24, 2026
Apr 24, 2026
41 min
Episode 35, "Two Trips and a Drag," takes listeners to the Kentucky Rolex three‑day with lively commentary on the jogs, the five‑star Grand Prix, and the crowd atmosphere.The hosts walk through course design highlights — multiple water elements, risky angles, frangible pins, and the physical demands on horse and rider — and discuss safety, community volunteerism, and the sport’s direction.




