Two Trips and a Drag

Two equine professionals discuss current affairs and other random topics from their perspective of a lifetime in the horse industry.

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Epic Tails of Ribbons Horses and Epic Fails

Just like our song says ... Trena Kerr and Sam McCarthy have over 100 years combined knowledge, as both trainers and competitors ...from local shows to National finals, from buying horses out of fields to shipping horses internationally. Throw in a little fox hunting, some 3 day eventing and mix in a little young horse and sport horse breeding.

We are professional trainers that have competed at all the venues, shown good horses and not so good horses, and have had a lot of fun along the way. Our guests are industry professionals from all parts of the horse world, we invite you to listen, laugh, and join us for our weekly struggles and victories.

Episodes

Saturday Nov 01, 2025

Hosts Trena and Sam celebrate Halloween with a lively recap of a horse show costume parade — from Maleficent horns and disco saddle pads to a pony that rolled, farted and stole the spotlight.
They dive into industry debates including mane-pulling and controversial drug-testing methods, rising federation costs, trainer certification, and the need to preserve grassroots/local shows.
Practical takeaways focus on horse welfare, venue choices, and simple routines to keep horses healthy and happy on the road.

Monday Oct 20, 2025

Hosts catch up after a big weekend at the shows, discussing dramatic jump-offs, the growing cost of horse showing, and heated debates over proposed drug-rule enforcement.They also cover fox hunting traditions, barn economics, and why listeners should read and comment on rule changes that could affect the sport.

Monday Oct 13, 2025

Join Trena and Sam as they chat live with horse professionals Matt Martin and Camille Maynard while the guests are on the road hauling horses to Aiken. The episode covers lead-line triumphs, show prep, barn breeding updates, hunter and jumper insights, favorite show grounds and meals, and a lot of horse show stories and humor.
Listen in for behind-the-scenes tales, Halloween costume talk, and a warm look at how trainers, clients, and young riders prepare and bond with their horses.

Tuesday Oct 07, 2025

Hosts Trena and Sam chat with guest Elizabeth (EB) Blaisdell about her recent reinstatement to amateur status, the highs and lows of judging, and debates over scoring, lead changes, and hunter standards at rated and local shows.
The episode mixes practical judging tips and rule discussions with lighthearted anecdotes — from truck troubles and hotel dog smuggling to a surprise kratom incident — and finishes with nostalgic stories about memorable horses and show life.

Thursday Sep 25, 2025

Hosts Trena and Sam welcome Ashley Bailey of Anchor Way Farm to recap the Gladstone Equitation Finals and the inaugural Adult Amateur Hunter Championships — the "Three-Foot Olympics" — covering course design, swag, and insider show-day stories.
They also share fox-hunting tales, setup rituals, superstitions like lucky boots and the sisterhood of the traveling bracelet, and the camaraderie that keeps trainers and riders going through the highs and lows of horse-show life.

Tuesday Sep 23, 2025

Hosts Trena and Sam dive into fox‑hunting traditions—membership, hunt colors, flight order, and what hunt week in Virginia is really like—while sharing personal weekend stories about juniors, hunting horses, and ring life.
They also cover horse‑world news and gossip, including high‑profile lawsuits, judging anecdotes from local shows, vaulting highlights, tailgate tales, and a touching story about Dollar, a beloved retired schoolmaster.

Monday Sep 01, 2025

Trena and Sam play their new theme song for the podcast, Two Trips and a Drag. And we didn’t get AI to write a summary for this one so you’ll have to listen to see what we talked about.

Thursday Aug 28, 2025

Hosts Trena and Sam introduce their new podcast, explain the name "Two Trips and a Drag," and trade lively stories from the horse-show world — from favorite venues and sketchy hotels to long hauls and behind-the-scenes chaos. They dig into modern issues like social media’s effects on buying and selling horses, the controversial Western Pleasure/undersaddle canter, and the need for better mentoring and cross-discipline oversight. Expect candid takes, humor, and plans for future episodes about burnout, alternatives to USEF, and guests who can defend or explain divisive practices.

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