Two Trips and a Drag
Two equine professionals with a humorous take on current affairs and other random topics from their perspective of a lifetime in the horse industry. Guests from across disciplines join us to discuss the highs and lows of equine sport.
Epic Tails of Ribbons Horses and Epic Fails
Just like our song says ... Trena Kerr and Sam McCarthy have over 100 years combined knowledge, as both trainers and competitors ...from local shows to National finals, from buying horses out of fields to shipping horses internationally. Throw in a little fox hunting, some 3 day eventing and mix in a little young horse and sport horse breeding.
We are professional trainers that have competed at all the venues, shown good horses and not so good horses, and have had a lot of fun along the way. Our guests are industry professionals from all parts of the horse world, we invite you to listen, laugh, and join us for our weekly struggles and victories.
Episodes

Dec 2, 2025
Dec 2, 2025
52 min
Hosts chat with Haley Zimmerman about Lawton Stables on Hilton Head — its holiday traditions, trail and carriage rides, the lively petting zoo and the care that keeps visitors coming back.They share memories from college days, barn stories, local shows and why the farm is a beloved holiday destination for families and riders alike.

Nov 24, 2025
Nov 24, 2025
1hr 2 min
In this 300th episode they cover Thanksgiving plans, podcast updates, and a deep dive into the recent EHV-1 outbreak — sharing first-hand experience from a Finley outbreak, critical biosecurity tips (daily temperatures, true quarantine, and hose/bucket hygiene), and the role of social media in spreading awareness.They also touch on barn life hacks like theraplate therapy, holiday party and gift ideas for trainers, equipment care, USEF rule changes, and nostalgic early-morning horse show moments.

Nov 16, 2025
Nov 16, 2025
1hr 2 min
Episode 12 of Two Trips and a Drag celebrates milestones with hosts Trena and Sam and guest Leah Smaller. They discuss the Blessing of the Hounds, hunting attire and helmets, and hilarious foxhunting memories from Ireland.
The conversation also covers Finley college days and alumni connections, showing at WEC and local derbies, working with young and sale horses, and barn life topics like phone use and social media. They touch on new equitation rules (two-point test) and share anecdotes from the show circuit.

Nov 10, 2025
Nov 10, 2025
59 min
Three longtime friends chat about horse shows, old barn stories, trials and sales, a hot-mic judge controversy, and proud parent moments from the sidelines.They swap funny memories from Pony Finals and WEC, discuss horse trials and trials-to-buy, share hiring misadventures, and celebrate small victories on and off the farm.

Nov 3, 2025
Nov 3, 2025
1hr 10 min
Episode 10 features hosts Trena and Sam in conversation with Katie Armstrong of Hunter's Ridge about training young horses. They discuss groundwork, backing, trailer-loading techniques, and the importance of starting horses correctly from weanling through two-year-old school to build safe, confident mounts.
The episode also covers common industry gaps, problem-horse rehabilitation, pricing and programs for yearling and two-year-old schooling, and practical tips for owners and riders to improve horse handling and rider safety.

Nov 1, 2025
Nov 1, 2025
1hr 3 min
Hosts Trena and Sam celebrate Halloween with a lively recap of a horse show costume parade — from Maleficent horns and disco saddle pads to a pony that rolled, farted and stole the spotlight.
They dive into industry debates including mane-pulling and controversial drug-testing methods, rising federation costs, trainer certification, and the need to preserve grassroots/local shows.
Practical takeaways focus on horse welfare, venue choices, and simple routines to keep horses healthy and happy on the road.

Oct 20, 2025
Oct 20, 2025
58 min
Hosts catch up after a big weekend at the shows, discussing dramatic jump-offs, the growing cost of horse showing, and heated debates over proposed drug-rule enforcement.They also cover fox hunting traditions, barn economics, and why listeners should read and comment on rule changes that could affect the sport.

Oct 13, 2025
Oct 13, 2025
56 min
Join Trena and Sam as they chat live with horse professionals Matt Martin and Camille Maynard while the guests are on the road hauling horses to Aiken. The episode covers lead-line triumphs, show prep, barn breeding updates, hunter and jumper insights, favorite show grounds and meals, and a lot of horse show stories and humor.
Listen in for behind-the-scenes tales, Halloween costume talk, and a warm look at how trainers, clients, and young riders prepare and bond with their horses.

Oct 7, 2025
Oct 7, 2025
1hr 6 min
Hosts Trena and Sam chat with guest Elizabeth (EB) Blaisdell about her recent reinstatement to amateur status, the highs and lows of judging, and debates over scoring, lead changes, and hunter standards at rated and local shows.
The episode mixes practical judging tips and rule discussions with lighthearted anecdotes — from truck troubles and hotel dog smuggling to a surprise kratom incident — and finishes with nostalgic stories about memorable horses and show life.

Sep 25, 2025
Sep 25, 2025
1hr 4 min
Hosts Trena and Sam welcome Ashley Bailey of Anchor Way Farm to recap the Gladstone Equitation Finals and the inaugural Adult Amateur Hunter Championships — the "Three-Foot Olympics" — covering course design, swag, and insider show-day stories.
They also share fox-hunting tales, setup rituals, superstitions like lucky boots and the sisterhood of the traveling bracelet, and the camaraderie that keeps trainers and riders going through the highs and lows of horse-show life.




